Radio On Television

[Steve in Pudsey]

Can't believe we're six pages into this thread without mentioning Brexitcast/Newscast

[thegeek]

Can't believe we're six pages into this thread without mentioning Brexitcast/Newscast

that one is regularly in an actual radio studio (generally Millbank, from what I've seen). The Bottom Line originally was too, but later moved into a TV studio mocked up to look a bit like a BH radio studio. It seems to have lost its TV version... possibly as long ago as 2016. (Shows how much attention I was paying!)

[Ash101]

Newscast hasn’t been on BBC One since the new year, which they mentioned in the podcast version as ‘because of staff reducing hours in buildings because of the lockdown’. They did do a special Brexitcast reunion on Thursday though, which actually ended up on BBC Two!

Although I do find televising it a bit odd. They do 5 editions a week, but only 1 in a visual form - so if you’re that interested in Newscast, surely you’d be in the habit of listening to it as a podcast.

[mrwish]

As already touched on, it’s quite a common thing in some countries to have “visual” versions of some radio stations now as TV channels, e.g R101, RTL102.5 etc. in Italy, Radio Contact in Belgium.

These show the music videos to the songs that are going out on the radio station on the TV feed.

I’m curious about this, as music videos are often different to the radio/release version of songs with dialogue and other stuff in them. I wonder if these radio stations receive special edited versions of the videos or are editing them themselves? It's quite a specific use-case, but maybe the record labels expect that nowadays in certain markets!

You can watch the Belgian example by copying this link into VLC.

[woodnorton]

As already mentioned, I think the first might have been a week of Radiovision with Good Morning Scotland in December 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUCo0P3Op-o

[Steve in Pudsey]

Wow, that's a hell of a find. I'm surprised at how "produced" it is, with captions etc, it's surprisingly watchable.

[ElMarko]

My current workplace is two doors down from the old building on Queen Street and I can't tell you how happy I was to learn this when I started there. There's still an old sign in the back alley on the back of the building which looks very old.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.954787...384!8i8192

Edit: Wonder when it dates back to?

[Hatton Cross]

As already mentioned, I think the first might have been a week of Radiovision with Good Morning Scotland in December 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUCo0P3Op-o

That is well produced, and shows with a little bit of thought and getting the tv team being 'embedded' along side the radio team, just what can be achieved. And shows just how complacent similar shows like that are today - looking at you RTE Morning Ireland.
With graphics and captions already templated up, footage accessable on a central server, it's not beyond the realms of expectation for something like that today to be produced with one, maybe two people in the gallery listening to the radio producion control room output on talkback.

Did like the joke the presenter did after the sports news "I always wondered what you look like"

[Brekkie]

As already mentioned, I think the first might have been a week of Radiovision with Good Morning Scotland in December 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUCo0P3Op-o

Brilliant find. I've never seen that mentioned when we talk about the origins of breakfast TV in the UK.

[London Lite]

The video above is basically what RMC are doing with Apolline Direct in France in 2021 with the modern inclusion of a video wall, but doesn't lose any of the elements that make radio warm and inviting.

[BBI45]

As already mentioned, I think the first might have been a week of Radiovision with Good Morning Scotland in December 1980

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUCo0P3Op-o

This is brilliant. As mentioned by [mention]Hatton Cross[/mention], it shows what can be achieved with just a small amount of effort.

I doubt it'll ever happen, but I wonder what the market would be like for a combined Radio/TV show here in the UK. I can only speak for myself, but in the morning, I'll catch the TOTH headlines on Good Morning Britain (if I'm up at the right time) and/or listen to LBC News. However, I reckon I'd be more likely to tune in to Radio 4 or 5 Live if I could jump from Radio to TV to Smartphone.

[Night Thoughts]

A long way downmarket from the gentlemen of early 1980s Radio Scotland, to a show that has probably dated horribly over the decades...

The James Whale Radio Show was a radio show repurposed for TV, and still broadcast on the radio, wasn't it? Wasn't it still done from Radio Aire's studios? Or was the "radio" bit just a gimmick?

[commseng]

I believe it was from Radio Aire's studios, convieniently next door to Yorkshire's studios of course.

[Cusack]

The Simon Mayo clip looks distinctly like a hand held camera rather than a permanent installation.

I wonder if that's a bit like the Tony Blackburn Radio 1 opening footage, mocked up for the cameras? I can't imagine Mayo doing that kind of show and not self opping, maybe they recorded it for posterity from the guest position in the studio with fewer screens and clutter?

Just catching up on this thread. This is the presenter position in the studio. The screens are in front of Simon and at times, the desk can seen near the bottom of the clip. It's a virtual desk, so computer faders not physical ones.

[Rdd]

As already touched on, it’s quite a common thing in some countries to have “visual” versions of some radio stations now as TV channels, e.g R101, RTL102.5 etc. in Italy, Radio Contact in Belgium.

These show the music videos to the songs that are going out on the radio station on the TV feed.

I’m curious about this, as music videos are often different to the radio/release version of songs with dialogue and other stuff in them. I wonder if these radio stations receive special edited versions of the videos or are editing them themselves? It's quite a specific use-case, but maybe the record labels expect that nowadays in certain markets!

You can watch the Belgian example by copying this link into VLC.

A long time ago, long before they had the idea of throwing Morning Ireland and other radio shows up onto TV with a webcam in the studio, RTÉ had the BeatBox, on what was then Network 2 and 2FM on Sunday mornings between 11:30am-1:30pm. This differed in that it was designed as a radio/tv simulcast from the outset, being presented from a TV studio with a proper set, and showed music videos and had interviews on the like. From my recollection it even showed the 12 noon and 1pm news bulletins (with the duty 2FM newsreader rather than one of the TV news ones) in a small presentation studio. It was later renamed 2TV with virtually the same format but presented by Dave Fanning instead. Ran from about 1988 (I don’t think it predated the change from Radio 2 to 2FM) to about 2001.