JetixFann450 post_id=65767 time= user_id=1047 Wrote:BBCMeridian post_id=65766 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:p2004 post_id=65762 time= user_id=2137 Wrote:To be completely blunt, all of those are terrible ideas that you have suggested for saving money. Your view appears to favour certain flagship programmes over others, and is irreverent to the ratings that each one brings. It would be utterly foolish for the BBC to cut staples such as The Apprentice or Strictly Come Dancing, which pull consistent large audiences. Axing the iPlayer would also be an extremely poor decision, even without touching the fact that it puts BBC content up behind a paywall. The BBC iPlayer is still, by far, the most popular TV channel catch-up service, with ITV Hub/All4 trailing far behind. If there is anywhere to make cuts, once you consider remits and the like, BBC Four is easily the best choice for it - no original programming, a very small audience, typically only catering towards certain niches. Sorry but I respectfully disagree, I don't want to see BBC Four cut from linear tv or any channels whatsoever.
Didn't you say you wanted CBeebies closed and merged into CBBC? Yes I did and I still mean it, I know not everyone will agree but it really is unnecessarily for the BBC to have two children's channels, considering that the name of the older channel in full is Children's BBC, and also this has got nothing to do with merging other channels.
The point is look what happened to BBC Three, there was a huge outcry when Tony Hall said he was going to axe it and that then turned into anger when the closure and move to online was approved, turns out the move online was unsuccessful and now the move online is being reversed, I imagine the same reaction would happen if BBC Four was to get cut.
BBCMeridian post_id=65768 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:JetixFann450 post_id=65767 time= user_id=1047 Wrote:BBCMeridian post_id=65766 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:Sorry but I respectfully disagree, I don't want to see BBC Four cut from linear tv or any channels whatsoever.
Didn't you say you wanted CBeebies closed and merged into CBBC? Yes I did and I still mean it, I know not everyone will agree but it really is unnecessarily for the BBC to have two children's channels, considering that the name of the older channel in full is Children's BBC, and also this has got nothing to do with merging other channels.
The point is look what happened to BBC Three, there was a huge outcry when Tony Hall said he was going to axe it and that then turned into anger when the closure and move to online was approved, turns out the move online was unsuccessful and now the move online is being reversed, I imagine the same reaction would happen if BBC Four was to get cut. Surely the outrage at CBBC and Cbeebies merging would cause a lot more outcry, lot more viewers who'd struggle for a good alternative
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I honestly think the axing of BBC4 would result in a collective “meh” at best. There’s no real loyal audience there. It has zero cultural impact. It’s just… there. I get individuals may have an attachment (sorry JB I normally completely agree with you on most things) but I think that’s a tiny minority.
all new Phil post_id=65775 time= user_id=865 Wrote:I honestly think the axing of BBC4 would result in a collective “meh” at best.. Compared to 10 years ago yes.
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I think the difference is it's easier for BBC2 to pick up the slack, especially now so little is commissioned. Yes, there is the odd higher brow documentary which might be a struggle, but the only other thing which seems to register is the Friday night music nights, but BBC2 have begun doing their own now on Saturdays and the TOTP repeats would be no more out of place at 7/8pm on a Saturday night on BBC2 than a Dads Army repeat is.
That's said I think it could continue to run at a relatively low cost and they should perhaps hold out to see how the political situation develops over the next couple of years and it would be messy to see another BBC3 situation where it's axed and revived just a few years later. If it did go though it's space shouldn't remain dormant - perhaps the idea of BBC1+1 might be revived for the evenings, and then the red screen of death (which is more pink nowadays) can have a stay of execution.
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Saturday's where they air international dramas still register also.
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BBCMeridian post_id=65768 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:JetixFann450 post_id=65767 time= user_id=1047 Wrote:Didn't you say you wanted CBeebies closed and merged into CBBC? Yes I did and I still mean it, I know not everyone will agree but it really is unnecessarily for the BBC to have two children's channels, considering that the name of the older channel in full is Children's BBC, and also this has got nothing to do with merging other channels.
The point is look what happened to BBC Three, there was a huge outcry when Tony Hall said he was going to axe it and that then turned into anger when the closure and move to online was approved, turns out the move online was unsuccessful and now the move online is being reversed, I imagine the same reaction would happen if BBC Four was to get cut.
Doubt it somehow. Probably be a case of a bit of "oh dear", tutting and general raised eyebrows and then grab the remote and find something else to watch.
Re: "the name of the older channel in full is Children's BBC, and also this has got nothing to do with merging other channels." - you can't say your argument is nothing to do with merging channels, especially when you've just said in the same sentence there is no need to have two channels when one will do.
You can't have your cake and eat it.
I’ve always thought that both BBC3 and BBC4 were natural expansions of BBC2 at a point around the millennium when the BBC kind of had to do it to compete, and because it had the resources to do so.
Inevitably, expansion tends to lead to contraction and cutbacks, and I would have been happy if BBC3 and BBC4 had both been axed and the funding plowed back into BBC2 again. Unlike many, I disagreed with BBC3 returning as a linear channel as much of its audience could quite easily have found the “strand” of programming on iPlayer anyway.
While I did like BBC4 closer to its launch, it did lose its purpose when the original programming was completely lost, so it makes sense to axe it now, but then it seems like they would’ve been better just removing both. Ah well.
Neil Jones post_id=65799 time= user_id=961 Wrote:BBCMeridian post_id=65768 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:JetixFann450 post_id=65767 time= user_id=1047 Wrote:Didn't you say you wanted CBeebies closed and merged into CBBC? Yes I did and I still mean it, I know not everyone will agree but it really is unnecessarily for the BBC to have two children's channels, considering that the name of the older channel in full is Children's BBC, and also this has got nothing to do with merging other channels.
The point is look what happened to BBC Three, there was a huge outcry when Tony Hall said he was going to axe it and that then turned into anger when the closure and move to online was approved, turns out the move online was unsuccessful and now the move online is being reversed, I imagine the same reaction would happen if BBC Four was to get cut.
Doubt it somehow. Probably be a case of a bit of "oh dear", tutting and general raised eyebrows and then grab the remote and find something else to watch.
Re: "the name of the older channel in full is Children's BBC, and also this has got nothing to do with merging other channels." - you can't say your argument is nothing to do with merging channels, especially when you've just said in the same sentence there is no need to have two channels when one will do.
You can't have your cake and eat it. I will miss BBC Four if it closes. Honestly, I found their four-corners design so mesmerizing and captivating. And I still like their programming, which is basically a mix between archive broadcasts and cultural/arts programming, with a dash of reporting. Like if BBC Radio 4 Extra merged with BBC Radio 4 and 3.
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Perhaps the BBC can make BBC4 online only but still commission programmes for it then bring it back in a few years time and use the library they have built up to make out that because it's technically not repeats that viewers are better off.
tellyblues post_id=65832 time= user_id=1333 Wrote:Perhaps the BBC can make BBC4 online only but still commission programmes for it then bring it back in a few years time and use the library they have built up to make out that because it's technically not repeats that viewers are better off. Not a good idea I don't think, it will be a waste of time to make BBC Four online only then bring it back as a linear tv channel. We don't want the same mistake to happen just like BBC Three.
Close bbc news channel it’s full of simulcasts from bbc world news anyway or merge them.
harshy post_id=65834 time= user_id=970 Wrote:Close bbc news channel it’s full of simulcasts from bbc world news anyway or merge them.
That's been cut enough already, notwithstanding further simulcasts due to the pandemic.
harshy post_id=65834 time= user_id=970 Wrote:Close bbc news channel it’s full of simulcasts from bbc world news anyway or merge them. Not a good idea as well, it's vital for the BBC to have a news channel for UK viewers.
BBCMeridian post_id=65838 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:harshy post_id=65834 time= user_id=970 Wrote:Close bbc news channel it’s full of simulcasts from bbc world news anyway or merge them. Not a good idea as well, it's vital for the BBC to have a news channel for UK viewers. Is it?
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