NancerOnTheLIVEForum post_id=65020 time= user_id=1794 Wrote:BBCMeridian post_id=65016 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:XIII post_id=64999 time= user_id=894 Wrote:The Apprentice is one of the BBC's top shows for 16-34, there is no chance in hell they're getting rid of it. Well it doesn't mean it will last forever, programmes do tend to come and go every now and again.
It's been running since 2005 with no signs of slowing down, they aren't going to axe it. I don't know why you always think the BBC should get rid of their highest rated shows. Well they've axed Holby City and will be airing it's last ever episode in a couple of months time, what I'm trying to say is it will happen in the future, nothing lasts forever.
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thePineapple post_id=65021 time= user_id=2117 Wrote:Markymark post_id=65017 time= user_id=1078 Wrote:I do. The Friday night music stuff mainly.
I'm curious to know, if BBC Four was, say, a playlist of archive material on iPlayer, much like BBC Three is now, would you still watch those music programmes?
That's a very good question. I've not really done that with i-player, though I have with Netflix, and Sky's 'catch up' service (Been working through the boxed set of 'Curb...' over the last couple of months for instance).
It wouldn't worry me if BBC 4 did close to be honest, I'd go and seek out the content on i-player
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Roger Darthwell post_id=64989 time= user_id=1160 Wrote:I think that BBC Four could be a brilliant archive channel, bear in mind that the BBC had LOADS of stuff from it's archives that they can show.......I mean personally if one day BBC Four only shows old episodes of Tomorrow's World dating back to the early 80s, I wouldn't complain.
It is often tooted that the back archive of the BBC wipes the floor offerings wise with Prime, Netflix and whatever else.
And anyway just because they have it, doesn't mean they can (or should) show it.
They almost certainly have all 20 series of Jim'll Fix It that were made. But for reasons I don't need to go into, it'll never be seen again.
Likewise probably no end of offerings that they have they could show, but can't. It needs to be remembered that it still costs to air old TV shows, even if it was the BBC that made it in the first place. There may be contractual obligations, royalties, other clauses...
BBCMeridian post_id=64964 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:Nothing's been confirmed at the moment so I wouldn't worry quite yet, although if it turns out to be the case it will anger a lot of viewers around the country, there are loads of other ways that the BBC can make savings, by axing programmes such as The One Show, The Apprentice and Strictly Come Dancing and bring back back the most important flagship programmes such as Watchdog and Crimewatch which were wrongly axed and shouldn't have been instead of channels which viewers are most passionate about.
Or here's another thought, Close the IPlayer, we already have BritBox so there literally is no point of the corporation to carry on running it's Iplayer service.
I think you'll find viewers are more passionate about the things you want to get shot of. Watchdog and Crimewatch are PSB style shows that work well but most viewers really don't care. All very well appealing for information on a crime in London, but it won't interest anybody watchiing in York. Being a national programme it would only ever focus on appeals of high profile crime. Watchdog isn't the same show it used to be years ago, its just a extended piece of fluffy journalism full of pox vops with an episode of Rogue Traders that was hemmed in years ago and never really seemed to fit.
Oh, and Britbox and iPlayer are not the same thing.
BBCMeridian post_id=65023 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:NancerOnTheLIVEForum post_id=65020 time= user_id=1794 Wrote:BBCMeridian post_id=65016 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:Well it doesn't mean it will last forever, programmes do tend to come and go every now and again.
It's been running since 2005 with no signs of slowing down, they aren't going to axe it. I don't know why you always think the BBC should get rid of their highest rated shows. Well they've axed Holby City and will be airing it's last ever episode in a couple of months time, what I'm trying to say is it will happen in the future, nothing lasts forever.
I can understand that, but you're bringing up axing stuff like Strictly Come Dancing and EastEnders, two of the BBC's highest rated shows. Why exactly do you think they should be axed, other than "nothing lasts forever"?
Wonderfully weird.
BBCMeridian post_id=64964 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:Or here's another thought, Close the IPlayer, we already have BritBox so there literally is no point of the corporation to carry on running it's Iplayer service.
I'd say there's literally EVERY point in continuing to run iPlayer. Britbox is designed as a completely different thing. And in any case, ITV own 90% of the UK service. Thankfully, this is an absolute non-starter.
Quote: I think you'll find viewers are more passionate about the things you want to get shot of. Watchdog and Crimewatch are PSB style shows that work well but most viewers really don't care. All very well appealing for information on a crime in London, but it won't interest anybody watchiing in York. Being a national programme it would only ever focus on appeals of high profile crime. Watchdog isn't the same show it used to be years ago, its just a extended piece of fluffy journalism full of pox vops with an episode of Rogue Traders that was hemmed in years ago and never really seemed to fit.
Crimewatch Live (formerly Roadshow) now gets 2 series rather than 1 now and Watchdog is now part of The One Show
I see it as if they're so bothered bout making more cuts don't bring BBC3 back it's a no brainer really clearly not going to be able to afford it
Given they threatened BBC Four's closure when BBC Three's original demise was being rubber-stamped, I don't think they have the guts to do it, honestly. And as someone else said earlier in the thread, the closure of the channel would be a drop in the pan (and they'd still have to run the airtime anyway for CBeebies), so it may not be worth even going through the process in the first place.
HEW2343 post_id=65065 time= user_id=1466 Wrote:Quote: I think you'll find viewers are more passionate about the things you want to get shot of. Watchdog and Crimewatch are PSB style shows that work well but most viewers really don't care. All very well appealing for information on a crime in London, but it won't interest anybody watchiing in York. Being a national programme it would only ever focus on appeals of high profile crime. Watchdog isn't the same show it used to be years ago, its just a extended piece of fluffy journalism full of pox vops with an episode of Rogue Traders that was hemmed in years ago and never really seemed to fit.
Crimewatch Live (formerly Roadshow) now gets 2 series rather than 1 now and Watchdog is now part of The One Show Well Watchdog should be a standalone series, not a short segment on The One Show.
benzj post_id=65114 time= user_id=1071 Wrote:Given they threatened BBC Four's closure when BBC Three's original demise was being rubber-stamped, I don't think they have the guts to do it, honestly. And as someone else said earlier in the thread, the closure of the channel would be a drop in the pan (and they'd still have to run the airtime anyway for CBeebies), so it may not be worth even going through the process in the first place. They didn’t close BBC Three to save money; they cut all of its content, supposedly to save money, then had no choice but to close the channel through lack of anything to show on it. That’s not really a problem with an archive channel. As you say, benzj, there’d be barely any cash saved with closing BBC Four.
I hope they don’t close bbc 4 if they do I hope they still show top of the pops but can’t see bbc3 lasting long either
BBCMeridian post_id=65115 time= user_id=2083 Wrote:Well Watchdog should be a standalone series, not a short segment on The One Show.
Why should it? When it started it was a short segment on Nationwide and Sixty Minutes.
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Neil Jones post_id=65037 time= user_id=961 Wrote:I think you'll find viewers are more passionate about the things you want to get shot of. Watchdog and Crimewatch are PSB style shows that work well but most viewers really don't care. All very well appealing for information on a crime in London, but it won't interest anybody watchiing in York. Being a national programme it would only ever focus on appeals of high profile crime. Watchdog isn't the same show it used to be years ago, its just a extended piece of fluffy journalism full of pox vops with an episode of Rogue Traders that was hemmed in years ago and never really seemed to fit. Hasn't Rogue Traders completely bitten the dust now due to Watchdog itself being absorbed into The One Show?
I'm going to stick out like a sore thumb here and say I'm a big fan of BBC 4. Timeshift was a wonderful programme and yes there is always the retro content.
I have a theory that if the licence fee is abolished then the BBC many go down a route of "primary and secondary" services where BBC 4 may find itself as a "legacy" online/streaming service while focus is given to the "best of" programming eg SCD and EE.
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Every so often the ‘From the Archive’ section of iPlayer and things like the ‘BBC4 Collections’ get an update or someone keen working on them. If BBC Four did sadly close I can see offerings like this increasing
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