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Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - thebigdog2020 - 24-07-2021
Could the UK Government not get involved with the TV rights situation as it is a listed event in the UK? Basically could they not say full rights has to go to BBC, ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5 rather than what we are left with now with basically 2 streams after the last few summer games on the BBC.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - dvboy - 24-07-2021
JetixFann450 post_id=30458 time= user_id=1047 Wrote:As someone who has to use Sky Go for some TV AND a VPN for Peacock/NBC Sports, it surprises me more that not a lot has really been said about this. There wasn't a big campaign that the Olympics have a new destination for everything. The only time is when people go onto social media and find out for themselves.
I dunno, I see the Discovery+ adverts every time I go on social media. They make a point of being the home of the Olympics.
Obviously it's not in the BBC's interest to mention any of this.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - harshy - 24-07-2021
News Engineer post_id=30453 time= user_id=729 Wrote:Things are at least getting better with the extra Eurosport channels - at least they’ve all got sound now, the Football has the right commentary, and the Handball is in English. Volleyball commentary is distorted though.
Some commentary on the 4K channel would be nice, the UHD HDR pictures look great.
Aah I was wondering why there was no commentary on the cycling on the 4K channel, unless the channel is set up multi lingual audio tracks maybe ?
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - mark - 24-07-2021
Meteor post_id=30420 time= user_id=1780 Wrote:While the BBC virtual set is a fine technical achievement and looks good enough, it's no substitute for an in-country studio with windows or open sides, giving viewers a feeling of being there themselves.
According to this article, the BBC's plan was always to have a virtual set even if they'd been presenting from Tokyo. It's because the time difference would have meant a real background would have been dark most of the time, Daybreak-style.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - technologist - 24-07-2021
thebigdog2020 post_id=30459 time= user_id=1596 Wrote:Could the UK Government not get involved with the TV rights situation as it is a listed event in the UK? Basically could they not say full rights has to go to BBC, ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5 rather than what we are left with now with basically 2 streams after the last few summer games on the BBC.So we have a UK only full rights package …. Would the Right holder be happy with this ?
I think not ….. the hassle of UK only
and then the loss of income from not splitting tv radio and digital rights
So who would the recipient of the UK rights ?
one broadcaster …how are they going to afford it ?
Note that it is mostly the BBC which seeks these rights not the other PSB
A consortium of broadcasters … may be ? But again do all want all rights - include Sky /COBA as well
Or the government …… that would be interesting ….
As the EBU lost the rights ..the BBC has got a deal better than the basic IOC/OBS free to air …
Some other rights holder organisations would not have a FTA requirement …
And thus uk legislation would mean the event would not be covered
because the rights were not available,
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - Brekkie - 24-07-2021
thebigdog2020 post_id=30459 time= user_id=1596 Wrote:Could the UK Government not get involved with the TV rights situation as it is a listed event in the UK? Basically could they not say full rights has to go to BBC, ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5 rather than what we are left with now with basically 2 streams after the last few summer games on the BBC.It should have happened when Eurosport bought the rights but it went by pretty much without comment. If it had been the World Cup with them leasing back the England and home nation games and the final it would probably attract a lot of comment, but for me this is much worse.
Of course the rights being sold nationwide meant the BBC could only bit as part of the EBU bid, which lost out. The previous cycle (2013-2020) saw the IOC award the rights to the bigger countries individually.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - Brekkie - 24-07-2021
Not sure on the m/s graphic on the swimming - adds very little for the casual viewer and actually distracts from the race, which is all that matters. Speed only matters when a world record, or perhaps qualifying time, is being targetted and the line across the pool is a much better way of illustrating that.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - RR - 24-07-2021
harshy post_id=30427 time= user_id=970 Wrote:What does the broadcasters get from OBS then all the Olympics feeds, Olympic clips and an Olympic news channel ?The first two as usual - the others, 3 to 9, are on 983 to 989..
Where’s Eurosport 1/9 on sky q I found 4K though!
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - James2001 - 24-07-2021
I can't believe what a mess Eurosport are making, I'd really have expected better with all their resources and experience, especially as they've had an extra year to prepare. Even their extra channels are a mess, each channel restricted to a particular sport with several key sports omitted and often not showing live even when there is something to show.
Their Winter Olympic coverage in 2018 wasn't this bad!
The BBC seem to be struggling as well though with only two feeds and working out what to put on them.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - RhysJR - 24-07-2021
Very short version of the BBC titles on the start of the BBC Two show.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - Transmission - 24-07-2021
mark post_id=30467 time= user_id=1102 Wrote:Meteor post_id=30420 time= user_id=1780 Wrote:While the BBC virtual set is a fine technical achievement and looks good enough, it's no substitute for an in-country studio with windows or open sides, giving viewers a feeling of being there themselves.
According to this article, the BBC's plan was always to have a virtual set even if they'd been presenting from Tokyo. It's because the time difference would have meant a real background would have been dark most of the time, Daybreak-style.
The BBC's studio in the Tokyo IBC was shown in a video earlier in the thread and indeed it was windowless. They're using it as office space now instead, enabling the desks to be distanced more.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - RhysJR - 24-07-2021
Transmission post_id=30483 time= user_id=1522 Wrote:mark post_id=30467 time= user_id=1102 Wrote:Meteor post_id=30420 time= user_id=1780 Wrote:While the BBC virtual set is a fine technical achievement and looks good enough, it's no substitute for an in-country studio with windows or open sides, giving viewers a feeling of being there themselves.
According to this article, the BBC's plan was always to have a virtual set even if they'd been presenting from Tokyo. It's because the time difference would have meant a real background would have been dark most of the time, Daybreak-style.
The BBC's studio in the Tokyo IBC was shown in a video earlier in the thread and indeed it was windowless. They're using it as office space now instead, enabling the desks to be distanced more.
Here's that clip again
https://twitter.com/NickHopeTV/status/1417075374584782854
And here's some pictures of the BBC World News set-up
https://twitter.com/LucyHockingsBBC/status/1418486228995825668
https://twitter.com/LucyHockingsBBC/status/1417837141942366216
https://twitter.com/LucyHockingsBBC/status/1417763053576200204
https://twitter.com/LucyHockingsBBC/status/1417452576769937409
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - Robinho02 - 24-07-2021
With the BBC only having two streams it also seems rather disruptive to have the lunchtime news interrupting coverage. On weekdays it’s scheduled for 12.00, in the middle of the evening action.
Would of been better perhaps to have News at One on BBC2 at 1.00 as normal with a Regional bulletin on BBC1 following the live coverage - eg. 2.50-3.00. Then live coverage can run on BBC1 uninterrupted.
Today I suspect they would of gone straight from the football to the swimming, but with a bulletin at 1.40 it felt they filling up to it and then they only had 15 mins on BBC2, only time for a bit more filler.
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - RhysJR - 24-07-2021
A helpful list from Nick Hope of all the BBC reporters who are on-site in Tokyo
https://twitter.com/NickHopeTV/status/1418875447094435846
Tokyo Olympics 2020 on BBC and Eurosport - Brekkie - 24-07-2021
Robinho02 post_id=30488 time= user_id=1536 Wrote:With the BBC only having two streams it also seems rather disruptive to have the lunchtime news interrupting coverage. On weekdays it’s scheduled for 12.00, in the middle of the evening action.Yes, I don't quite understand the move of the 1pm news with athletics generally being 11-2pm once that kicks off - would have been better moving it the other way if needed. As you say though moving it to BBC2 then running a short regional bulletin just before 3pm on BBC1 would make far more sense.
Would of been better perhaps to have News at One on BBC2 at 1.00 as normal with a Regional bulletin on BBC1 following the live coverage - eg. 2.50-3.00. Then live coverage can run on BBC1 uninterrupted.
Today I suspect they would of gone straight from the football to the swimming, but with a bulletin at 1.40 it felt they filling up to it and then they only had 15 mins on BBC2, only time for a bit more filler.
Similarly the 15 minute move to BBC2 could probably be avoided with a short bulletin just interupting coverage instead, especially as the live action seems to be finished for the day.
Seems that Hazel is doing the full 9am-3pm shift today on her own. Whether Gabby will only come in when the athletics starts remains to be seen - would probably have made more sense for her to cover the football today. Nice though to see Hazel get effectively the prime live shift - the BBC are lucky to have Gabby and Clare as well, and previously Sue, but for me Hazel has always had the edge.