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How does TV put the clocks back? - Neil Jones - 31-10-2021
Brekkie post_id=51436 time= user_id=976 Wrote:P.S. Is the forum clock out for everyone too?
Mine's fine.
Set your timezone to London and then UTC to 0. You may have set it to UTC+1, which would have been right at the time, since the forum went live on Monday 29th March I believe, the day after the clocks went forward. So if you're on UTC+1 now, that is the modern Central European Time. UTC is the same as GMT.
How does TV put the clocks back? - Steve in Pudsey - 01-11-2021
There was also the occasion when Bingo Night Live on ITV had to come off air at the software running the bingo games didn't take kindly to the time changing
How does TV put the clocks back? - deejay - 01-11-2021
These days the clock change isn’t anywhere near as much of a nightmare as it used to be - it just kind of happens and the automation deals with it. When everything was run manually it also wasn’t an issue. However back in the early days of automation (late 90s) it was much more unpredictable as to what would happen. The ideal scenario was that you’d closed down by 0200. However if you were running a programme from tape (often something like a Feature film on BBC 1 or the Learning Zone on 2) you’d schedule it for an hour less or more than it’s actual duration if it’s transmission time spanned the clock change. But what do you do when it’s a short programme and the automation thinks it comes off air after it started ? All kinds of nastiness could occur. And did!
How does TV put the clocks back? - Gallunach - 01-11-2021
RTE 1+1 goes off air overnight at every clock change though oddly the EPG still lists the programmes that should be on .
How does TV put the clocks back? - Stuart - 01-11-2021
It looks as though sometimes thing go wrong at the BBC and/or Sky.
They supply information to Sky for the EPG, and it was fine yesterday after the change from BST. Their clock is also 'up the wall' unless I got up VERY late. :x
This morning it seems to have 'gone wonky', and Breakfast doesn't start until 07:00. :?
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How does TV put the clocks back? - Stuart - 01-11-2021
It appears that BBC Breakfast started at 06:00, despite Sky claiming it was an hour later.
I wonder if my appointments this morning will be OK with me being late :?
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How does TV put the clocks back? - Bluecortina - 01-11-2021
In the ‘good old days’ we had two professional longcase clocks in the basement area as the room temperature was somewhat more stable being below ground. These clocks, main and standby, fed bi-directional pulses to the Gent clocks around the technical and production areas. Two engineers would be rostered to change the clocks in the early hours of the morning and go round the building ensuring all the clocks were correct.
Much later that was all replaced by a Leitch satellite receiver system which obviously took its timing reference from a satellite. On the over-night in question the late night engineers would preset the receiver/generators to add/remove an hour in the early hours and then go home. The first shift in at 5am would check the clocks and jam-sync the various timecode generators around the various areas to make sure they were correct too*.
I think one of my retired colleagues has one of the original long case clocks.
* edited to add, the timecode generators were never permanently jammed to any reference - only jam-synced when necessary. Very occasionally you would get a call from a gallery to say the clocks in the gallery monitor stacks seemed to be very slightly out compared to say the clocks on the wall. In practice the two sets of clocks were fed from two different time code generators and they could drift apart. A quick jam-sync of the wall clock generator during a meal break would sort it - you wouldn’t touch the studio generator as someone in VTR could be using it and you could easily cock up their recordings. Every studio and presentation had their own master timecode generator (and SPGs) but the clocks were all fed from a common ‘other’ generator hence the potential for errors over time.
How does TV put the clocks back? - Spencer - 01-11-2021
bilky asko post_id=51482 time= user_id=973 Wrote:Steve in Pudsey post_id=51473 time= user_id=942 Wrote:There was also the occasion when Bingo Night Live on ITV had to come off air at the software running the bingo games didn't take kindly to the time changingBid TV had problems around the clocks changing for a long time as well, that was always good fun to watch on those evenings.
The legendary Friendly TV had a ‘Windows has detected a daylight saving time change’ pop-up on screen for much of the day following the change.
How does TV put the clocks back? - RR - 01-11-2021
Stuart post_id=51486 time= user_id=875 Wrote:It looks as though sometimes thing go wrong at the BBC and/or Sky.It is Sky - Sky+ had a time change bug in presenting the time - everything is an hour out - albeit recordings will record the right programme, just display the wrong time. This doesn't affect Sky Q or older boxes, and has oddly been introduced to boxes that have coped with this change for at least a decade or more.
How does TV put the clocks back? - Joe - 01-11-2021
Bluecortina post_id=51496 time= user_id=1554 Wrote:In the ‘good old days’ we had two professional longcase clocks in the basement area as the room temperature was somewhat more stable being below ground. These clocks, main and standby, fed bi-directional pulses to the Gent clocks around the technical and production areas. Two engineers would be rostered to change the clocks in the early hours of the morning and go round the building ensuring all the clocks were correct.Still easier than changing the clock on the oven.
Much later that was all replaced by a Leitch satellite receiver system which obviously took its timing reference from a satellite. On the over-night in question the late night engineers would preset the receiver/generators to add/remove an hour in the early hours and then go home. The first shift in at 5am would check the clocks and jam-sync the various timecode generators around the various areas to make sure they were correct too*.
How does TV put the clocks back? - kernow - 02-11-2021
They still haven't fixed the Sky EPG (on Sky+HD at least), and is still an hour ahead.
How does TV put the clocks back? - Neil Jones - 02-11-2021
kernow post_id=51750 time= user_id=1430 Wrote:They still haven't fixed the Sky EPG (on Sky+HD at least), and is still an hour ahead.
https://www.sky.com/help/servicestatus/service-checker/tv Wrote:We are aware that some customers with Sky+ boxes are seeing British Summer Time shown in the Sky Guide menu following the seasonal clock change. We are investigating this and should be resolved by Thursday 4th November. We have verified that the impact appears limited to the wrong time being shown in the clock. Watching live TV, recordings, and downloading and playing Video On Demand are working correctly. Sorry for any inconvenience this may be causing.
How does TV put the clocks back? - Brekkie - 02-11-2021
At least they didn't say it'll be resolved by the 27th March.
How does TV put the clocks back? - Neil Jones - 02-11-2021
Brekkie post_id=51766 time= user_id=976 Wrote:At least they didn't say it'll be resolved by the 27th March.
Just a storm in a teacup, anybody would think the entire platform has packed up looking at the comments on the Sky Community Forums.
How does TV put the clocks back? - Markymark - 03-11-2021
Neil Jones post_id=51773 time= user_id=961 Wrote:Brekkie post_id=51766 time= user_id=976 Wrote:At least they didn't say it'll be resolved by the 27th March.
Just a storm in a teacup, anybody would think the entire platform has packed up looking at the comments on the Sky Community Forums.
Indeed. I wonder what they'll do when that Solar Flare the Daily Express et al keep promising hits us, and destroys not only the satellites but plunges us back into the dark ages.